"Suppose they gave a war and nobody came?"

Pacifist or Anti-pacifist? The original quotes


Copyright © 2012 by Hugo S. Cunningham
Earlier text copyright © 1934 by Berthold Brecht and 1936 by Carl Sandburg
started 2012/0226Sn
latest minor update 2012/0226Sn

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"What if they gave a war and no one came?
Then the war will come to you.
He who stays home when the fight begins
And lets others fight for his cause
Should take care. He who does not take part
In the battle will share in the defeat.
Even avoiding battle does not avoid
Battle, since not to fight for your cause
Really means
Fighting on behalf of your enemy's cause.
    --Anonymous amalgamation of Carl Sandburg and Berthold Brecht

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Quote added 20020725, sourcing revised 20120226Sn
Stell dir vor, es ist Krieg, und keiner geht hin
Dann kommt der Krieg zu euch
Wer zu Hause bleibt, wenn der Kampf beginnt
Und läßt andere kämpfen für seine Sache
Der muß sich vorsehen; denn
Wer den Kampf nicht geteilt hat
Der wird teilen die Niederlage
Nicht einmal den Kampf vermeidet
Wer den Kampf vermeiden will; denn
Es wird kämpfen für die Sache des Feinds
Wer für seine eigene Sache nicht gekämpft hat.

“Sometime they’ll give a war and nobody will come.”
    --Carl Sandburg's poem: "The Little Girl Saw Her First Troop Parade"
Carl Sandburg, The People, Yes (1936), an epic poem
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Editor's note:
This pacifist quote reflects American isolationism in the 1930s. It frequently reappeared during the USA's Vietnam War era as
"Suppose they gave a war and nobody came?"
commonly mis-attributed to Berthold Brecht.
When the people are disarmed
War will come.

[...]

He who stays home when the fight begins
And lets others fight for his cause
Should take care. He who does not take part
In the battle will share in the defeat.
Even avoiding battle does not avoid
Battle, since not to fight for your cause
Really means
Fighting on behalf of your enemy's cause.

    --Berthold Brecht
http://www.luettgerding.net/wissen/koloman-wallisch-kantate.htm
Cantata for Koloman Wallisch
Koloman Wallisch, a socialist leader, was hanged on 19 February 1934 by the authoritarian Dollfuss government of Austria, in the aftermath of violent suppression of socialist militias.
Quote added 20120226Sn
Wenn das Volk entwaffnet ist
Kommt der Krieg.

[...]

Wer zu Hause bleibt, wenn der Kampf beginnt
Und läßt andere kämpfen für seine Sache
Der muß sich vorsehen; denn
Wer den Kampf nicht geteilt hat
Der wird teilen die Niederlage
Nicht einmal den Kampf vermeidet
Wer den Kampf vermeiden will; denn
Es wird kämpfen für die Sache des Feinds
Wer für seine eigene Sache nicht gekämpft hat.

Editor's note:
An anonymous anti-pacifist turned the Sandburg quote above into a question and answered "Then the war will come to you," with this Brecht verse added. I am not sure when the amalgamated verse first appeared, or in what language.

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